I have a couple friends in somewhat serious relationships who are at a very important crossroad in their life that I believe ALL men go through before deciding to take the ultra-serious steps of getting engaged and then married: “Am I truly ready to leave the life of being a single and free bachelor alone, or am I ready to devote ALL my love and attention to one woman and ride with her through the amazing UPS and the sh*tty DOWNS”. But here’s what most men MEAN but don’t have the heart to say in public: “Am I really ready to embark on a life long journey with a woman who satisfies me fully emotionally and mentally, knowing that I feel I may need more to be fulfilled physically.” Well bruh, I got some advice for you: GROW UP.
Now when I say GROW UP, don’t think I’m speaking from the predominantly female point of view, where women constantly belittle men’s intrinsic sexual nature, as if mastering our desires is some simple act or falling victim to them is only possible to immature boys without “control.” All of that is complete and utter BULLSH*T. The fact that a man decides to take his level of horniness into account before deciding to make a serious decision is the SMART & PRUDENT thing to do. And falling victim to the illicit temptations of lust has NOTHING to do with maturity so don’t EVEN try to make that anti-intellectual argument.
When I, as a man, tell other dudes to GROW UP, I mean it’s time to frame your choices in a more realistic manner than what you are thinking in your head. When most men have the internal discussion about the potential benefits of staying single, we ALWAYS seem to frame it from a POSITIVE standpoint: Look how much nani I’m gonna have to give up; I’m never gonna smash that PAWG at the gym; I’m never gonna have another threesome again; Hell, I’m never gonna be able to even holla at another dimepiece ever again.
Interestingly enough, when we contemplate the same decision looking at it from the perspective of being married, we frame it [physically] from a NEGATIVE standpoint: Man, I don’t know how i’mma stay sane when the sex starts to get too regular; Damn, son…one vagina from here on in.
And as much as I hate to say this, a lot of dudes I know are deciding “I need to F*^K more before I settle down” because they are making a decision based on false pretences. The main thing you need to realize is that there are positives and negatives to both sides of the fence and you need to make the CONCERTED effort in investigating ALL the realistic possible negatives of being single. This ideology that once you turn single you will be swimming in hot women from the Dominican is really not the reality most dudes will be facing. It’s a life of increased isolation, meaningless encounters and getting reacquainted with rejection and lonely masturbation [at least relationship masturbation feels like it's just a temporary choice instead of being FORCED upon you]. Hell not to mention the increased risk of contracting an STD or turning a one-night stand into a lifelong baby-mama.
But more than anything else, remember that you choosing to let her go [or make her wait] which means that SHE will be single too. So instead of selfishly focusing on what will and won’t be happening to your richard, take a moment and think about the woman you LOVE, who has YOUR back and is damn near perfect for YOU, will be getting HER needs fulfilled and there ain’t a DAMN thing you can do about it.
So hear me out dude: You DON’T need to F*^K more before you settle down – you need to GROW UP and look at the options around you realistically. Don’t let an uninformed decision stand in the way of the best thing that may ever happen to you.
This Is Your Conscience
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lincolnanthonyblades
Ladies & Gentlemen, I've Always Wondered: Do WOMEN Have This Internal Dilemma Before They Decide They Want To Be Married Or Engaged To A Dude??
Jan 27th, 2012
Michelle
#nounsexperiencedmenundermysheets
I WILL NOT HAVE IT!
disclaimer: i may not be around after your little fling so know what you're getting into
Jan 27th, 2012
grandgryph
some real perspective here.
both choices have ups and downs: it all depends on what one's personality can tolerate. but the guy who sees 'free single sex' vs. 'settling down' as a dilemma might not really be the best relationship material in the first. he's always going to be restless.
when a woman is looking for a man to be monogamous that should be a habit he's adopted on his own accord; not due to pressure and circumstance. that's just what he's made himself because of the benefits. kind of like getting a formal education an 'independent' commitment to a principle not a wild horse wrangled and broken by life.
any how, married people do all kinds of things to 'spice up'. if the dude is letch, marry a woman who is open to some freaky shit – or will let you get the occasional extra. marriage certainly doesn't mean the end of king's three-ways. and, single life doesn't have to be all meaningless one-offs: hence the term 'long-time companion'. there's more grey than 'black and white' in those two set ups.
Jan 27th, 2012
msjordan11
I absolutely LOVE this post Lincoln! Especially b/c I do believe that people have crazy idealistic dreams of what single life could be for them when they don't realize that we are getting old. That doesn't mean settle for less, that means that the options of banging that hottie at the gym MAY NOT EVEN BE an option if she doesn't want your old azz.
It is very frustrating to be told how I'm "wifey" material, the kind of girl who's ride or die and the type they would love to mother their children…but yet, they aren't ready to commit b/c they still feel like they need to chase nani and get it out of their system. In the end, I feel better b/c I know that they can't be the man for me. I believe the man who is for me WILL NOT let me go. Which is what also inspired my blog " The Tupperware Theory".
I have actually been told by a guy I was dating that he believes he's making a huge mistake and if I were to get married to someone else, how would I feel if he decided to show up and interrupt the ceremony?
To which I answered "SECURITY!!!" He looked at me confused " You'd call security on me?" Um…Ya! Bright! Wanting to interrupt MY day of happiness with a man I'm in love with and sharing with my family and friends, so he can barge in at the very last minute b/c he realized he made a mistake…which he seems to be aware of WELL IN ADVANCE??!! Nuts. Out To Lunch Nuts!!!
Jan 27th, 2012
grandgryph
yeah, well the players' strut changes as he gets older.
nowadays to gas a woman up you can't just talk about how pretty she is or how tall her hair is, you have to play up her other qualities.
so many players are like: `girl…i'd wife you….BUT.' they just know that marriage is the brass ring so they dangle it – hoping you'd reach for it. they say that to a bunch of women who they want to make feel special. it is just tailoring the talk to the demographic. too bad you based so much the male equivalent to
sphallolalia – which is some women's favourite past time.
anyway, through marriage promotion and morality movements, older women always try to restrict a man's sexual options as that increases and adds quality to their own.
that's some organised desperation if i've ever seen it.
certainly not every young hottie wants an old guy, but many more interactions go down than people realize. and – for whatever reason – psychologically and hormonally few things help a man than sex with a p.y.t. it like going to the spa. to close the door on that is – quite reasonably – tough for many men.
Jan 27th, 2012
@craziijnell
Love this LOL
Jan 27th, 2012
Independent Woman
Most women have too much sense to need to be told that…
Jan 27th, 2012
Independent Woman
Nothing more pathetic than an entitled man!
Jan 27th, 2012
Independent Woman
OH PUHLEEEZE!
All men see that single sex dilemma! you all are too much alike SMH
Jan 27th, 2012
msjordan11
As i said before…whethe it's lines from a player who feels he needs to gas my head for his own satisfaction, or whether it's the truth but he doesn't want to settle down just yet…EITHER WAY – HE AIN'T FOR ME!
At the end of the day, women pretty much can get d*ck whenever, wherever,whatever so for us it ain't nothing we ever feel like we are running out of. So, heck if some Ol' Foot wants to reach out to his likkle gym hottie to stroke his ego and make him feel like he's "still got it". Ain't nobody hatin' on your game playa…just wrap it up and hopefully SHE will be the one to comfort you when your old azz wants real TLC or in general a good person to have your back.
Jan 27th, 2012
grandgryph
yeah. well i don't know if it is just gassing his head. young women are usually firmer and look better naked than older ones. sex with them is a wholly (snicker) different experience – not just an ego boost.
ain't for you. well of course. HE made that decision when he assessed you and figured you weren't really wife material for him and decided he could stroke your ego – and maybe part your legs – by throwing marriage talks around. what a quick study you are, lol.
but you knew that you'd already taken an L. so you went to the trouble of trying to spin it into a fantasy wedding scenairo to get 'i-rejected-him' props. lol, come on now. who's that impressing?
anytime. i hope you remember you said that. because in a couple weeks some woman will be croaking about who she can't find some guy to put it down. and most of you hens will be running to co-sign that. trust i'll link this comment of yours and watch you dance around your hypocrisy.
also just as a woman can find dick whenever, remember that a man can find a 'wife' just about whenever. particularly if he has some money, decent hygiene and is willing to play a role.
that's part of the reason why men dangle marriage and women dangle sex: it's both show the other they can get easily what the other often has to work for and fuss about.
now, part of the reason why men opt for the promise of young fresh and green over a 'bag lady' is because many women make it pretty obvious that they care more about status and material than people.
just recall independent whore's 'pay dung pon it' article from last spring. for many 'respectable' women sex and affection are commodities traded on a market, not a natural expression of the self – or real feelings.
with that established – and celebrated – why should a man want a salty past-her-prime-woman over a young fresh one? that'd make no sense at all.
further, it is people to have good people who have your back if you aren't married to them. oh and it is so sad that you have to use the fear of death or infirmity to sell marriage. what a glowing endorsement, lol.
long live love!
Jan 27th, 2012
grandgryph
you know, i liked you better when you put more thought into your stupidity.
Jan 27th, 2012
msjordan11
I could imagine. As is sex with a younger man. One with a six-pack and not a protruding beer belly nor a man with receding hairlines.
Exactly. And I assessed that I don't a wishy washy man nor investing my time on one like that…NEXT!!!
I didn't spin anything into a fantasy rejection story sweetheart, but I appreciate your assumption. This was HIS story proposed to me. No need to impress a man on a blog post. Just speaking my mind (like I always do).
You will rarely find a hen on here talking about not being able to find a man to "put it down"…hmmm, maybe "put it down properly" . And feel free to make a folder filled with my comments so you can come back here and play judge and jury. You will get a "thumbs up" from me.
Of course men can find a wife easier… I think it's agreeable to say that most women are decent, looking for love ladies who can cook, clean, and run a household. Finding a man who is WORTHY of that treatment…isn't as easy. Just as you so clearly stated, men are out there trying to chase some young azz and will say anything to play up on our ego temporarily, right?
To each their my own dear. I'm not at all upset if a man wants a youngie over a salty past-her-prime-woman. There are some men who know that wine tastes better with age…and than there's some who should stick to drinking Welch's.
Aww, no need to feel sorry for me hun. Oh and wipe your mouth…you got some grape-juice stains on your lips.
xoxo
PEACE n LOVE Homie
Jan 27th, 2012
Kam
Msjordan your response was classy I would like to add
That men are usually useless by the age of 50 and if they overused themselves in their prime I would say they're pretty much over in their 30s. Who would want a man who has to be on supplements like Viagara to keep up with your 20s lifestyle.
A lot of these guys think they can be George Cloony's. Young women majority of the time don't date older men for love but more for financial gain as in what can you give and buy them.
Jan 27th, 2012
msjordan11
Thank you Kam!
Great points!
"It don't take a whole day to recognize sunshine".
Jan 27th, 2012
Randy
some of us men aren't used up. Especially since its more difficult to get some in our earlier years. Definitely much easier as you age.
smart men choose women who look young but are in their age range. A dime a dozen… but they're out there
Jan 27th, 2012
Janet
#nounsexperiencedmenundermysheets
I WILL NOT HAVE IT!
haaaaaaaaaaa!
Jan 27th, 2012
up4dsn
You're right. If a man deems a woman to be the salt to his pepper or peanut butter to his jelly then other women shouldn't even be a part of the equation. If a man truly is mature and knows that he wants to be with a particular woman then he's going to make that happen…and other women won't matter.
That guy you were dating is wild! I can't believe he thinks he can keep you dangling like a yo-yo while he runs around punching out…and then when he gets exhausted just swing back by and scoop you up. That is absolutely delusional. He cray and you might want to begin the process to get a restraining order on homie…you know…just in case…lol.
Jan 28th, 2012
grandgryph
i suppose. but most younger men have next to no interest in an older woman – never mind marrying one. not all of you are demi moores.
we already established that since a woman can get sex when she wants those opportunities are almost useless to her. so why are you flaunting that now?
however, younger women date – and marry – significantly older men all the time. in fact it is a bit of a norm.
i agree. as i've said here and other places, a woman who wants to get married should only entertain the attentions of men who say – and show – they want the same thing. most unmarried women, this is not how they approach thing.
you did. you talked about what would happen had he interrupted your future wedding. that's a fantasy story in that it hasn't happened, yet.
yeah. see but 'put it down' means 'properly' or even 'excellent'. so what the france are you talking about? lol. you made a false distinction just to show your skill at being redundant. that's just silly. you can keep your folder to yourself.
really? if you dated women you might have some sort of basis to say that. but i don't think that you do. so that's just feminine clap-trap. most women have a hard time being in the presence of other women for prolonged periods of time. that i think says a lot.
you talk about good people, good people don't withhold 'caring' for advantage (while at the same time not letting people take their kindness for weakness). what most of it comes across as is women willing to lease sexual and emotional services to a man once he behaves in a way that is to her liking.
now. if you are playing a role because you think it might benefit you in some way you aren't in `love' you are in 'business'. and calling that love or sincere makes you look all the more phony. once it goes to that realm, men will always have more and better options than women do.
if you think men are 'chasing' young azz then you really don't know what's up. plenty young women seek out or make themselves available to an older men for reasons of security or what have you.
often a man has too put a lot less work in to get a younger woman than to get an older one most of the times. and the older one is more likely to dried out, damaged and cagey than the younger one. so – business wise – which is a better investment? what is the better value? of course the younger woman.
it is sort of funny that you don't realize that your posts illustrate exactly why they are worth more. some wine just goes rancid though and those men will drink it and say how sweet it is; but anyone with a bit of discernment can tell.
Jan 28th, 2012
Paul B.
Lmbo
Jan 28th, 2012
msjordan11
That's cool…the ones that are the Demi Moore's know who we are
Flaunting what? What opportunities are "useless" to her?
Please be clear when you are writing so there is clear room for a reasonable rebuttle if needed.
Yes, I understand that it's a norm for younger woman to marry an older man. What's your point?
I agree. Women should only entertain men who say they are looking for the same thing such as (marriage, etc) but didn't you so clearly state that men say this stuff to just get into our pants anyways? And you wanna mention hypocrisy?
I mentioned a fantasy story that HE proposed and wanted an answer to. My real answer wasn't an attempt to get " I rejected Him" props…it was the honest truth as to how I feel and how I would act.
lol sigh…the male mind. To YOU "putting it down" THINKS you are putting it down in a good way…what WE women talk about is how HE didn't put it down properly.
Are you sure you don't need a folder sweetie? B/c you clearly stated that you will come back and dance around my future hypocritical statements. Statements which have not nor will not happen. So who is playing fantasy scenario now?
I love that you can speak on behalf of women as if you are one. I LOVE women. I respect women. I understand women. I AM a woman. So I speak for those who can relate and understand. When you can find more than10 women on this blog talking about them not being able to find d*ck…lemme know. Til than…keep waiting.
Good people are not supposed to be doormats for users. Giving your affection and emotions to a man who isn't giving back to you is just silly. And same goes for a man chasing a woman who isn't interested in him. I'm simply saying that if they aren't interested in pursuing you on a serious level…let it go.
I don't at all disagree with you. Men do have better options. There are simply MORE better women out there, than there are GOOD men. Haven't you heard the saying? A GOOD man is hard to find. And there are plenty of men out there who will agree.
You are the one who implied that men prefer to go after younger women. I was simply just reiterating what you said. And yes, for security…FINANCIAL security. If you are cool with knowing that your young p*ssy wants you mainly b/c you can give her a financially secure life…than do you. Some men actually want a woman who loves them for them.
Exactly. You sound as if you prefer your women easy. Go ahead…I ain't hating on that. You are the distinct difference between a man wanting to climb a tree for a quality apple, and the guy who picks up the ones from off the floor even though they are bruised and dirty. But hey…it's easy right? Why do all the work, right?
Wine only goes rancid when a man doesn't understand the shelf life of how long wine is good for. Some take the opportunity and drink it all up…others, don't seem to want to work for it…so instead of buying a fresh bottle…they'll drink something stale. These are not wine conoisseurs…they should stick to drinking thier Welch's until they understand HOW to drink wine. And if you knew how…you wouldn't even have said your comment.
Jan 28th, 2012
Guest
When do women grow up and decide we want to be married? We don't. We've been told our whole lives that marriage is the ultimate end game so we don't question it. There are many married duos of uncontent women and crazy-in-love men. You must know at least three of these couples. And the man never understands what he did wrong! If women thought harder about the pros and cons of marriage and their particular partner, a lot of these doomed marriages could be avoided. Pre-marriage soul searching should be mandated for both genders. Just change the word f*^ck to "be valued for all dimensions of my humanity."
Jan 29th, 2012
Blaximus
Wait…. I just got here and I gotta step back and say that a man isn't " used up " in his 50's if he has had many sexual encounters.
Just the opposite, you gotta exercise it to keep it STRONG.
Don't settle for the 50 year old guy that's been at home sittin' on the couch.
Jan 29th, 2012
S.T.S.M
http://youtu.be/X6-UftBHk9A
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
yeah. and in the end you all still get left by ashton. so thanks for proving my point, lol.
you are flaunting that a woman can always get dick. this despite most women saying they want a long term sexually exclusive relationship. you are 'bragging' about something women allegedly don't care about. which is silly in several different ways.
my point is that you are confused beyond redemption. why would you be mocking and denying something that you later admit is a common occurrence? lol.
we have no evidence that this guy even exists first of all. and secondly, you retelling it the way and when you did makes it more your fantasy than his. see, he's not telling the story: you are.
i said 'say' and 'act'. by this advanced age, fine w(h)ine like yourself should know that talk is cheap and that people speak with their actions. so you misinterpreted my comments all to make a scintillating non-point. well done, sj. lol. fine wine…schupse.
actually though, unlike your scenario: invented to prove how desirable you need people to think you are; your compounded hypocrisies and non-arguments are recorded here for everyone to see. do you understand just how different those things are?
i just said 'put it down' as in actually do so – or at least SHE says so. it is old hat for women to attack or frustrate a man's virility in order to feel some sort of superiority. and, that you did so despite that not being relevant to the original statement really is a pathetic diversion that you think plays to women's prejudices. clearly i was talking about a situation when a man takes care of business – oops i mean – when both partners see that the other is sexually satisfied. you needed to take it to a place where you though you had advantage, but even there you fail.
i didn't speak on behalf of women. i commented on a certain dynamic that women are involved in, and recounted things i've heard women say (or in fact have been said in these very forums). that's very different from speaking on behalf of. so again, you are confused.
it is interesting how you talk about LOVING women on one hand then in the next breath imply that some of them might be welches (i.e. cheap grape juice) and dirty rotten apples just based on the fact that those women are younger than you.
that's not enough though, you – despite being very confused and maybe trying to be deceptive – go on to state that you are 'fine wine'.
clearly you think that some that you love and respect – so deeply- are beneath you; of a different stock entirely and when it benefits you in the slightest way deserve to be thrown under the bus. lol, now if that's LOVE then i'm hoping that i never have such a 'privilege', lol.
there's a lot of space between being a caring, kind person – who will not let their kindness be used for weakness, as i said – and being the victim of a user. or using emotional and sexual services in a market-based exchange relationship intended to benefit one party more than the other, for that matter.
that you don't seem to acknowledge that there is one is again pretty telling.
men don't have more options because women are just better people than men. that's contemptuous clap-trap. men have better options because men naturally (i.e. fertility window) and socially (i.e., through sexism, and market-based love patterns) have more advantages than women do. and women, even when they think they are being smart, play into these advantages.
let me illustrate. i explained to you is that most women rate financial security high on their checklist and many men have accepted this. now with that agenda, if one has to chose between a younger – firmer – woman and an older one, then obviously the younger one is the better value BY FAR. and after all, she too will one day become fine wine, right? as long as dude keeps his money up and dress nice, the juiciest apples will fall into his hands.
and if he wants to make cider with the older ones, he can do that too.
anyway you slice it, there's a longer period of higher quality enjoyment. older women – if they are wise – recognize this and come with 'value added' so as to compete.
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
stingy and lazy ones would rather retire to a world of aggrandizing fantasy and delusion and try to get others to buy in so as to artificially raise their value and create better options for themselves. that's like tilting the pinball machine.
what i'm telling you – and the nieces – is that plenty men, who see a woman making those kinds of noises sees desperation and delusion not real wife material. you are going to attract guys who think they can game you and so the delusion becomes self-fulfilling. which is fine, because the truth is that is what most people want most anyway.
as for me? i like my women not stupid, phony and trifling; those who value themselves enough to not have to engage in bunch of transparent and boring tactics – or invoke the fear of death or use that silly little apple tree 'analogy' – to try to create a better relationship landscape for themselves. if you call that 'easy' then you are further gone than i'd care to fathom. fine wine. ha. you're just sour grapes.
nieces, if you find yourselves facing spinsterhood – and that's not what you want for your life – don't fall into delusion and silliness like sj has. be selective and don't let yourself be used but use your experience to be – effortlessly – sincere and caring; for those qualities make a woman a joy to live with and suggest that you love love too much to put it up for sale. your soul wil be better for it. and women like sj – inadvertently will always ensure that you are in demand.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
Your argument was that not all women are Demi Moore's. Implying that a younger man will not be interested in older women. He married her. It's hollywood. Let's not let whatever ruined thier marriage be brought up in a debate as we have no clue as to why that ended. They are not the only hollywood couple who have broken up so your argument has no backing.
I am bragging that women can get d*ck. Does that hurt your feelings? Make you feel insecure? It's the truth! My point in saying that is b/c we can get it so easily, it's not anything that we feel we need to go chase everytime we see a hot guy. This blog was based on the fact that men want to "F*ck more " before they settle down. And Lincoln than addressed the ladies after asking if we feel the same way. Which is why I made that comment.
Just because it's a common occurence doesn't make it not mockable…get off your high horse.
hahaha…my life doesn't surround proving cases to random men on blogs who can't even put up thier picture. Get the f*ck outta here with your small-minded arguments.
Exactly. Talk is cheap. And all your talk from the last argument was mainly based your opinion of how you believe younger women are easier so why would you put in more work for an older woman. YOU said these words. NOT me. There is no misinterpretation. You are just bad at explaining yourself and even worse at debating.
I know, and I'm quite happy with my comments. Even received a few emails and comments giving me kudos. So thank you for giving me a forum to call you out.
And I was clearly educating you on what you THINK is putting it down doesn't qualify as "putting it down properly". And unless you’ve seen your chick squirt, you won’t have a clue if she’s even faking it just to get you off of her or not. I hate repeating myself but you seem to slow in understanding so it's necessary.
I come on this forum quite frequently and have yet to hear a lot of women complaining about the fact they can't get d*ck. Get GOOD d*ck is another story so I'm not sure what fantasy blog-land you are hopping to and fro, but get it together.
Just as there is good in this world, there is bad. I 'm not going to say that every single living woman is a gem. There are bad apples just as there are men. So please don't try to twist around my wording to create an argument that doesn't exist.
I truly believe I am. I'm sure you think you are the "cat's meow", " a g with swag", or even a "decent human being" in which I can't argue as I don't know you from jump. Perception is reality. I'm not everyone's taste. Definitely not yours. You admitted you like your woman easy.
We weren't talking about market-based exchange. I was talking about MY story. In which I cannot relate to your emotional/ sexual service argument so I can only argue based on where I'm coming from.
Right. It is what it is. Women can d*ck anytime and men can marry anytime.
So younger and firmer equate to a better lover/partner? What happened to morals and values? Character, personality, experience? It's obvious for you as to what is more important. Which is why we will never see eye-to-eye.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
Aww thanks Grandgryph. Knowing that I'm not your selection makes me feel reassured that I'm on the right path.
xoxo
SJ
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
my argument was that younger men aren't interested in older women. the demi-ashton example wasn't an argument…but an EXAMPLE.
you later admitted though that younger men, marrying or otherwise being available to older men is common. so you undermined a later point with a non-point., lol. CONFUSED.
no it doesn't at all. i've argued numerous times that women can get dick when they want. if men don't really want to settle down -as you've implied – and women do; what good is raising the point that men won't settle down because they are chasing women? lol. so again, your comments are off base and senseless.
mockable? you said before that it doesn't happen; that men have to chase these women. i said that they don't really. you later used an example that supported MY original point, and now you are claim some sort of victory. woman, are you for real? you can't even keep a conversation straight…is fine wine you admitting that you stay drunk? common and mockable indeed.
no. your life shouldn't revolve around it. if arguments are small-minded and silly it should be effortless; just as me proving yours wrong has been.
a younger woman will likely have LESS baggage and GREATER potential and – if a man chooses wisely – immediate benefit; so she is a better INVESTMENT than jumping through an bunch of moving, flaming hoops to placate a damaged and delusional older one.
you've provided nothing to suggest that 'pursuing' younger with sense isn't a wiser strategy than older with baggage. and in fact you shown that you can't trust labeling. BUYER BEWARE! lol
any why are you begging to see my picture? i promise you'd be disappointed, sj: i'm rather good-looking, and wouldn't want much to do with you – not because how you look (i've not yet even looked at your pic) but because you seem to have no capacity for or appreciation for 'higher' level thinking.
even concubines and courtesans have to have some sort of sense or some personality beyond i'm some 'i'm-every-woman' fuckry.
lol. clinging to that one hard, huh? again another of your FABRICATIONS. it wasn't about what i think is 'putting it down' – i clearly said that i was talking about instances when both agree that a good job was done. here you are INVENTING things, so as to manufacture some sort of relevance. all you are doing is exposing yourself; and how much stock you put in 'deception' – which you aren't particularly good at. kudos.
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
dick vs. good dick. now you are just repeating a triviality that is besides the point. i ws talking in an objective sense – or at least a consensus one. either way, the distinction is a stupid one. because if dick is everywhere, why would a woman settle for mediocre dick if dick of all kinds is around? she's basically saying that dudes with the good dick don't want to waste it on her, lol.
way to help the sisterhood out again, sj.
i'm not twisting nothing. your words are there to see. and love if it is pure and unconditional it loves even the bad apples. it doesn't glorify itself or other wise add bruises to those 'bad apples'.
the irony is, that many of those 'bad' apples don't think that they are bad at all. know what i'm saying? want some cider? lol
what is easy? rotten apples? lol. whatever. most men do not want to partner with women who are silly and deluded. i already admitted there are guys out there who are pum-pum hunters for life, but that doesn't mean that women who can't find a man are all just too good and that all men are like – or stay like – the chasers. wrap your mind around diversity, sj.
admitted. no. but in almost all your responses you are operating within a market-based sensibility. nice dodge though.
amendment: men can marry anytime – and any man how has his shit half way together can get pussy anytime. women – according to you – can get mediocre dick anytime. i see why you all work so hard to level the playing field.
unfortunately the way most of you go about it gives even more advantages to men – while making it harder for you to get what you say you want.
if we are operating under the assumption that men are just penises looking for the best hole, then yeah. the game is to find the tightest, wettest one and the most enthusiastic slam.
but really personality i think is very important. it is odd though that you'd twice construct things in a way that show younger women to be lacking personality-wise. love.
age doesn't tell one how far you've gone but how long you've been on the road. younger women are MORE likely to be educated than older ones; and have less emotional damage and are less deeply invested in delusions. on top of that can be just as intelligent and – often more engaging – than older ones.
despite your misrepresentation of them, in every aspect, younger women are – at least – comparable usually and in one major aspect often have a decided advantage. that just is what it is: and is why when men decided to marry they usually marry a younger woman.
just accept it.
oh and why we don't see eye to eye is because, when it comes to reason and common sense, i'm a giant and you are a dwarf, lol. how you like them apples?
cheers!
snicker.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
Argument/ Example… the POINT of the comment was that younger men aren't attracted to older women as we all aren't Demi Moore's…wow you find ANY out to justify your inaccurate statements.
"you later admitted though that younger men, marrying or otherwise being available to older men is common. so you undermined a later point with a non-point., lol. CONFUSED. " …WTF?! Yes, I am confused! This whole statement doesn't even make sense. I can't comment on something that makes no sense. Use spell check and type in a Word document if you are unsure of grammatical accuracy please.
I'm raising the point that we don't have that issue of chasing men for d*ck, as opposed to your comments about men who dangle the idea of marriage to open up a chick's legs.
So you pointed out that you believe that you don't have to chase younger women and that it's easy for you wife women (younger ones especially)…and I said that we don't have to chase d*ck and I'm apparently the one who's "bragging"?
Your arguments are still not validated. You take wording, misconstrue it, play on assumptions and than act like you got a point? FAIL. I'm sure that many even have a hard time following your responses as they are so scattered.
Why do you believe that a man must jump through flaming hoops for older women who you have listed as damaged and delusional? What constitutes this extra work that you keep mentioning? Being a gentleman? Actually getting to know her? I'd like to know where you get these ridiculous assumptions on older women.
The argument was NEVER about YOUNGER with SENSE vs. OLDER W/ BAGGAGE??!! This again is your interpretation of the conversation placed and another one of your words that you have NOW twisted to backpeddle your way out of this. The argument was that you said men would rather choose a young women over an older women as it's "LESS WORK". Less works means EASIER. Which means you don't want to work for a woman. ANYTHING worth having DOESN'T COME EASY. So that being said, you have painted a picture of a dotish, immature girl with no experience who is open to manipulation by a man who is deceptive and wants to take advantage of her (probably b/c she doesn't know better). So I am simply playing off what you are saying. THERE IS NO REFERENCE TO THIS YOUNGER WOMEN HAVING ANY DAMN SENSE in any of your initial posts. Instead, when referring to older women, you have labelled them as dried out, damaged and cagey.
Please refer below:
"often a man has too put a lot less work in to get a younger woman than to get an older one most of the times. and the older one is more likely to dried out, damaged and cagey than the younger one. so – business wise – which is a better investment? what is the better value? of course the younger woman. "
I have never begged to see your picture. I simply said that I'm not going to prove a case to a man who doesn't even show his picture. But since you want to bring looks into it…I bet $100 that you are a troll. An ugly-azz muthaf*cka who has an issue with attractive women who are confident and have common sense. Please spare us all the photo – your personality is hideous, and seeing a picture attached to it may just give me nightmares for weeks.
You've been commenting to me for the past couple of days and you haven't seen my picture? It shows up on the blog you idiot. This is how I know you are a certified trifling liar who's word, nor judgement cannot be trusted. So keep your rusty-azz pic and "higher thinking". You are damn straight that I have no interest. Even if you looked like D'Angelo at his prime( circa 1999), your cloudy way of thinking is enough to make someone get turned off.
I never said "I'm every woman" so please do not misquote me nor put words in my mouth to give you some false elevated argument.
Now here's my disclaimer:
WARNING!! Grandgryph known for master-manipulating women by presenting them with false intentions and the idea of marriage JUST to get some p*ssy. He twists words and comments after realizing he's not been accurate nor clear in his posts in order to make himself FEEL as he has won an argument. He doesn't know how to drink wine so please give him that left over bottle of Red from two weeks ago. He prefers to drink cider and Welch's and loves to combine that with some bruised up dirty apples to pair. Noone has seen what he looks like, but has referred to himself as a Giant. Possibly an Ogre.
If this is of any interest to you…you can find him rebuttling "SJ" on this blog.
I will give you props too. You finally got an attractive woman to pay you attention for over 5 mins. This is a big day for you. Pop open that bubbly!!! Er…or um rather that Sparkling Cider.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
Noone settles for mediocre d*ck. It's like a damn box chocolates. You don't know what you are gonna get til you open it up. But of course, you gotta twist it around…b/c you have no point. What else is new?
Don't try to quote Hallmark cards about Love being unconditional and all that bull. You have a weak rebuttle and once again are REACHING. Stop. You are just embarassing yourself.
Of course lots of these 'bad apples' don't know they are. They are usually too young , inexperienced and as you say have less baggage to even really understand what they like and who they are. And once they get to see the sleazy side of yourself that uses the idea of marriage to get her to skin out her crotches, she'll probably be worse.
I have never talked about emotionally holding anything in exchange for a commitment. I have only said that one shouldn't waste thier time on someone who isn't giving that to them if that is what they want. To which you argued that a good person doesn't withold thier care for someone.
So if men can get p*ssy anytime…why lie about marriage and being "wifey material" ??? Isn't this what triggered your first response??? Are you now saying that you DON'T say that b/c p*ssy comes so frequent??!! Make up your mind.
Again, contradiction. So women go about things in the wrong way. Men know that some or most women want marriage and you said they dangle the idea or talks of it to a girl to make her open her legs. So how is the woman wrong in going about it if her intentions from the jump are on the table and HE's lying?
I didn't construct my comments based on ALL younger women. I was rebuttling your once again, label that younger women are "less work" and that older women come with "baggage".
HAHAHAHA…here we go again? So now younger women are more educated???!!! How so? They have less deeply invested delusions??!! HAHAHAHA I think any women will tell you that they were more naive when they were younger than as they grew up and had experience. So if anyone has delusions about relationships, it's probably a young woman who hasn't dated around enough and hopes she'll marry her first love straight outta highschool.
HAHAHAHA ya…well I can't speak for ALL cases, but I can tell you that lots of young women who are marrying older men, usually do it for financial gain and end up screwing thier hairdresser, personal trainer, gardner, pool boy etc as they weren't initially attracted to that older husband who has to pop viagra to get a woody.
Reason and Common Sense are not your strong suits. Please do not invest nor bet on anything that depends on those traits for your character. I do not know you personally, but your posts do come with a scent of unattractive bitter ignorance.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
Noone settles for mediocre d*ck. It's like a damn box chocolates. You don't know what you are gonna get til you open it up. But of course, you gotta twist it around…b/c you have no point. What else is new?
Don't try to quote Hallmark cards about Love being unconditional and all that bull. You have a weak rebuttle and once again are REACHING. Stop. You are just embarassing yourself.
Of course lots of these 'bad apples' don't know they are. They are usually too young , inexperienced and as you say have less baggage to even really understand what they like and who they are. And once they get to see the sleazy side of yourself that uses the idea of marriage to get her to skin out her crotches, she'll probably be worse.
I have never talked about emotionally holding anything in exchange for a commitment. I have said that one shouldn't waste thier time on someone who isn't giving that to them if that is what they want. To which you argued that a good person doesn't withold thier care for someone.
So if men can get p*ssy anytime…why lie about marriage and being "wifey material" ??? Isn't this what triggered your first response??? Are you now saying that you DON'T say that b/c p*ssy comes so frequent??!! Make up your mind.
Again, contradiction. So women go about things in the wrong way. Men know that some or most women want marriage and you said they dangle the idea or talks of it to a girl to make her open her legs. So how is the woman wrong in going about it if her intentions from the jump are on the table and HE's lying?
I didn't construct my comments based on ALL younger women. I was rebuttling your once again, label that younger women are "less work" and that older women come with "baggage".
HAHAHAHA…here we go again? So now younger women are more educated???!!! How so? They have less deeply invested delusions??!! HAHAHAHA I think any women will tell you that they were more naive when they were younger than as they grew up and had experience. So if anyone has delusions about relationships, it's probably a young woman who hasn't dated around enough and hopes she'll marry her first love straight outta highschool.
HAHAHAHA ya…well I can't speak for ALL cases, but I can tell you that lots of young women who are marrying older men, usually do it for financial gain and end up screwing thier hairdresser, personal trainer, gardner, pool boy etc as they weren't initially attracted to that older husband.
Reason and Common Sense are not your strong suits. Please do not invest nor bet on anything that depends on those traits for your character. I do not know you personally, but your posts do come with a scent of unattractive bitter ignorance.
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
yeah. demi moore symbolising a woman who is wealthy, still reasonably good-looking and bothered to keep herself in shape. even she couldn't keep a younger man. again not the point, but an example or illustration.
it is sad that you have to latch on to a typo and some homophobic insinuation attempt to have some sort of relevance.
anyway, similar young-old dynamics play out in same-sex relationships too. older established gay men tend to have their pick of younger gay men. as long as money is a major factor in relationship and older men accumulate more money, they'll going to get more play than they probably should.
sigh. yeah, but that point too makes no sense. women don't just f*ck for pleasure, but for advancement and pleasure. women tie marriage to advancement. so a man who wants to get a certain sort of woman will dangle marriage to get in her game.
i didn't say what i do or don't do. i talked about what happens. older men don't have to chase younger women as you described earlier; so you were wrong then. how do i know? you admitted that older men married younger women. this is important because it relates to the dynamics that create options. not that senseless nit-picking that you want to elevate to an argument.
no not at all. it is that those definitions change as particular women see fit. so for them, it is not about attracting a principled decent man, rather it is about attracting some man willing to be enslaved to her whim. part of the reason those women aren't married is because marriage-oriented men avoid bad investment; and smartly marry more sincere and capable ones. often, those are younger women.
the argument was about options. i just explained and later you agreed that men have available to them more – and often better – options.
you – despite claiming to love and respect women – decided to call younger women 'easy'. i think we both know that that has a derogatory connotation. further someone not being (pointlessly and irrationally) difficult is not the same as being 'easy'. there are plenty younger women who are intelligent, kind and cultured and do not see their worth any way tied to being 'difficult'. at the same time, they aren't about to get played – shrewdness is essential to kindness.
you being reluctant to accept those facts – or link them to why men marry and value younger women is just plain hating on your part. dress it up how you like, but that's what it is.
had i need of a measly $100 i'd post my pic. but i don't. more than likely you could use that toward ginko supplements – or what ever drug that guy in 'limitless' took. that way'd you be at least average intelligence.
i'm aware that your pic is there, but i've not bothered to look at it. i couldn't pick you out of a police line up.
but i'll take a look at it now…meh. not ugly…or at least not as ugly as your mind is.
sigh. 'i'm every woman' is another reference actually which — you know what? never mind, lol.
can you show me where i said make marriage sounds to grease a woman's legs? another invention of yours.
anyone who cares can look and see that i've not at all twisted your words. you just sense that you've been out-argued and maneuvered and so needed a fall back position – which i'm beginning to suspect is a personality pattern of yours. more courageous, principled people accept when they might be wrong and tweek their perspectives; delusional would-be tyrants though, do not.
i drink wine, brandy and grape juice, actually. i just know which is which and don't need a snake oil saleswoman trying to tell me what's up.
yeah. ogre. i like ogre. that works too. still taller than a dwarf, right? ha.
attractive…sure but what exactly do you attract? married yet?
how about now? lol.
props? you've no choice. you were thoroughly – and rather easily – handled here. why? because your views are common (in both main senses of the word).
and you know what; krystallyght and imakesense are both better looking than you are- and we've had even better engagements. you are far down my list sj. you wouldn't even make the practice team.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
And who is your shining example of younger woman who stay with older men? Kimora Lee and Russell Simmons??NEXT!
I'm not attaching to anything. I find your posts rather hard to intrigue and have to re-read them over to interpret what on earth you are trying to say.
Exactly. Thank you for proving my point. Younger people getting with older people usually are based on FINANCIAL security…not b/c they want an old pecker.
oh!!! Now it all makes sense!!! Women don't have sex for any pleasure whatsoever. We are all about only having sex with hopes of attaining a husband. That is our primary goal??!! Again, you aren't a woman so you are talking out of your azz with these whack assumptions.
Ok so let's rearrange the words and say "AIM" instead of chase. Does that make you feel better? According to you, men aim for younger women b/c they are more desirable based on less baggage and they "look better naked". To which, the rebuttle was that younger woman usually aim for men who are older for their money . Why are we still repeating this?So when I make a point it's senseless nitpicking but you apparently have all the answers? Get over yourself.
Sounds like someone is back-tracking to me. You mentioned repeatedly how dried up older women are. Now you are saying that bitter women are the ones who want to control men and that's why they are single? Where on earth did this topic come from? From your clouded perception of older women. I know many older women are not jaded, bitter nor resentful, nor dried up like a prune. Maybe you are just attracting negative older women.
Just b/c men have more options (the ratio of women to men is way higher by the way) doesn't mean that younger women possess all the qualities of a perfect wife, lover nor friend. This was never about "options". As with some people they have more options than others period.
I am not hating on younger women at all. I am hating on your perception of what you believe younger women are like.
I actually wasn't challenging you for the $100. I was putting it out there for the others who are reading. I would bet them $100 that you are a troll.
How can you NOT look at my pic when it' s beside every post I put up? NOT talking bout enlarging it. Talking about just scanning over it. You mean to tell me you hadn't EVER looked over at who you have been communicating with for 2 days??! You are absolutely full of sh*t and now I whole-heartedly believe it. Before, I thought you were full of it , but now it's confirmed.
My mind is ugly? Believe me, coming from you that is a sweet compliment.
Related to another reference? You stalking my comments from previous posts or something?Probably why you said "forget it". Get a life.
" HE made that decision when he assessed you and figured you weren't really wife material for him and decided he could stroke your ego – and maybe part your legs – by throwing marriage talks around. what a quick study you are, lol. ".
- This obviously wasn't an invention of mine. Straight out of the Ogre's mouth
You were the one who had to back-track and backpeddle a few times b/c you obviously do a horrid explaination of your ludicrous thoughts and perceptions. I'm not using any tactics to prove a point. I'm giving you the rope and you are hanging yourself with it.
Honey, with your ridiculous comments you need all the help you can get.
Is this a height competition? I'm a woman, generally men are taller than women. Your point is. Stop reaching… it's getting lame now. Are we gonna start talking about Dragons, Hobbits and Wizards too? Lame.
So…b/c I'm not married…than I'm not attracting the right men??? You better be careful what you say, b/c I'm sure there are LOTS of SINGLE women who will have a problem with a statement like that which of course you will try to manipulate once again.
My views ARE common. It's just COMMON sense. Not Grandgryph's fantasy world filled with giants and dwarfs.
I don't at all dispute that there women out there more beautiful than me. I've never seen them but I'm sure they are gorgeous. I never claimed to be the best looking woman in the world nor on this post. But until you can take a decent pic with your phone…you of all people should be the last to talk of looks, homie.
You're right. I wouldn't be on the team. I'd be the coach.
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
how about all the models that rush was f*cking despite being married to a past her prime super model.
the reason you can't understand them is because they are intelligent.
no one said that young women are chasing older men down for their penises; just that if both older and younger women are after the same thing 'financial security' older men will get chose young women; like russell simmons – or any guy with his sh*t together does. even if he marries an older woman, he'll still f*ck young, more times.
no. i said quite clearly that women have sex for pleasure and advancement. as usual you are responding to your own invention.
you don't know what my gender is. this is the internet, sj. either way, women themselves admit to sex for social advancement over pleasure, basically. most women claim not to have regular orgasms.
'aim' is very different from 'chase' now isn't it. particularly given the value you put on 'work'. and, it is important b/c as i explained they have those options available to them so won't be so inclined to wed an older woman. that speaks directly to the ORIGINAL argument.
yeah you are a hater. you've insulted them and belittled them in every post except this one. now you are just trying to save face as if your comments aren't there to see. snake.
yes. that's what i'm telling you. i'm engaging a mind and ideas. a picture of what you may or may not look like is of little importance: shocking i know to you but not uncommon. some people value mind over appearance. and by the looks of things you've spend much more time on the latter at the expense of the former.
not all of them are dried up – just the ones who have to go on stupid to get attention. i also said that some are fine wine – or even brandy (which is fermented wine). so i still got love for older women.
lol. that bet makes no sense at all. further you have no evidence that any one is reading this. you've just again shown how shifty you are.
my mind is slightly warped, granted, but that usually comes with having significantly above average intelligence; that might be ugly to you particularly if your are a narcissist, lol.
sigh. no it is not a height competition, but reference to us not 'seeing eye to eye'. of course we don't. intellectually, i tower above you.
women think men are marriage-adverse. not really, any man knows that a good wife is worth more than her weight in gold. the fact is most women act like brides and princesses but not wives or partners. most women who exhibit sincerity, intelligence and passion – and want to be married – are snatched up by their mid twenties usually.
those who are not – either don't really want to get married – or have been looked over for a reason. or several.
running about self-promoting and self-aggrandizing isn't fooling anyone but the fools. rather such women would do well to develop those desirable personality traits instead of going on a marketing campaign.
manipulate? i told a women who are looking for marriage to STAY AWAY FROM MEN who don't expressly show they want the same thing (that'd include guys like me). if single women have a problem with that, then they can go drink javex for all i care. that's sensible advice. if a man's trying to get over and a woman is forcing some delusion on him as a ticket to the dance? it is his choice to go along with it. she's trying to game him, he has every right to game her back – then move on.
really though, he should just find a woman who wants what he wants out of the relationship.
that's an interpretation of your story – a very plausible one. men who want to marry a woman don't do dumb sh*t like that guy did.
stop begging to see what i look like, sj; just accept that i'm a tall, fit and handsome. and smart enough to recognize and avoid a swindle, lol.
sigh. a 'common' reference. how clever. however a coach is part of the team. even common knows that. usually the wisest most knowledgeable part. you've already disqualified yourself from that role as i know 10 year old autistic kids more sensible and worldly than you.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
I didn't ask for an example of a guy who's banging models over his past-his-prime wife. Geez, you don't pay attention.
Your definition of intelligence is one to be challenged for sure. But keep telling yourself that.
Wow, so NOW you are saying that older women go after men for financial security as well? We ALL want someone who in general has "got it together" but that wasn't the argument. The argument was that older men go for younger women. And mine was the young ones are probably doing it because of financial status. When an older man and woman get together, they may share more in common and have the same vision as to where they want to head together as they are in the same age range. Why would a young hottie go after an old man? Maybe there are few that would say for love…but MANY would argue that. So please stop this redundant back and forth.
You said women don't f*ck JUST for pleasure…but for advancement. You are talking about it as if they are trying to get leverage like they are passing out sexual favors to get a promotion. Did you ever think that women sometimes would like a GOOD lay and when they do it that maybe there is actual emotion involved. Not a methodical plan to move up in a relationship.
I don't know your gender? Are you playing this card? Is the only trick you have left in your bag of idiosyncrasies? This is the reason why you have such a messed up perception of women. You talk to women who sleep around for advancement and than think you can pile the majority into one class. Makes sense now.
I'm not arguing that a lot of men would choose a younger woman over an older one. I'm saying, that because he does that, doesn't mean he's making the BEST choice. If younger women are looking for financial security, this brings back to my original argument that some people actually want to be loved for them…and not what's in their bank account.
I haven't belittled anyone but you. My comments are there for ALL to see. Don't try to get the younger women on your side by putting words in my mouth. Everything I've said has reason with explanation attached to it. If I said "ALL YOUNGER WOMEN ARE HOES" or " ALL YOUNGER WOMEN ARE IDIOTS THATS WHY THEY DATE OLDER MEN" than you would have an argument…but you really don't.
HAHAHAHA now you value MIND over APPEARANCE? When all you have been talking about is the young firm body of a younger lady? Again…get the f*ck outta here. MIND??? From a youngin' who you basically said has no baggage b/c she's so ripe? HAHAHAHA…at least I get jokes from your posts.
You are full of sh*t. NOW you are saying older women are like fine wine??! Naw…you said that wine can go rancid and that younger women can turn into fine wine if her man has his finances up and dresses good. So…not only does this older man gotta keep money in the bank, but he better keep his body in tip top shape or else this younger lady may just leave his ass. Which is what I was saying from before. It's not usually about his personality.
You are just mentioning your love for older women now b/c you realized you said a lot of rank and stank things and trying to go back. Stop this nonsense. Your posts are for ALL to read as well.
I can't say if anyone is reading over the past few hours. They are probably just as annoyed seeing your posts. But they were reading before…b/c I got emails and comments.
I don't think your warped mentality came from higher intelligence. Probably came from mommy issues or maybe the last girl who broke your heart and made you bitter. Or maybe you are just that computer geek who hides behind the screen as opposed to having a real life with REAL experiences instead of just assuming things about people.
Perception is reality. So if you feel that you tower over me intelligently…than do you. Say what you need to in order to go to sleep at night. Just because someone doesn't see your point of view, doesn't make them less intelligent. You are just going to have to deal with the fact that I will NEVER agree with your comments on this particular post and there are probably a LOT of others who don't either.
Oh really? Is that the statistic?? Wow you must have done your research. So a woman who was pursuing her career primarily hasn't a shot in hell for marriage than, right?
Well, I guess to you I've been "overlooked" for a reason or several. But if you are the options of men that are out there…than hell yes, thank God the Lord above that I am not married.
I don't know what women you are talking about that are self-promoting like they are working a marketing campaign. Again, this must be the older dried up women in which you so graciously speak of. Or maybe they are the "I'm Every Woman" chicks that you mentioned.
Jan 30th, 2012
msjordan11
I agree with you on that part so I don't know what you are arguing. I never at all eluded to women chasing men who don't put their intentions on the table. If they aren't giving you what you want or deserve, than leave. That goes for both sexes.
Ok, call it an interpretation as much as you want. I know the truth and I was expressing MY story in reference to what Lincoln had wrote. You don't have to believe my side. I'm not going to try to convince you.
Your description of yourself sounds like an "interpretation" of what you see in the mirror. I also am not one to be swindled. Proof is in the pudding. And you don't got no puddin' cup to offer—so Troll it is.
A Coach LEADS the team while being a part of it. Has experience. Has most likely played in the past and knows the game inside out. Wow, you bringing it to autistic kids compared to my sense? I must have really irritated you…SCORE! Sorry, but you make it so easy.
Jan 30th, 2012
grandgryph
this is an old fart who still has options. so what if they are after his bank account? most men have long accepted that that's what women are primarily interested in anyway. so, if that's what its about, it makes more sense to go young.
challenged by who? you? p-shah.
no the argument was about men's choice and options: we have more and better quality ones. and, so the women who don't get picked for marriage either don't really want to be married or don't make the cut for some reason.
it is rarely because no man has the sense to see her value – they just don't see her as fit for marriage. this isn't permanent, but is pretty serious – worse if she goes spiraling into delusion instead of confronting this fact.
i said not for pleasure but for pleasure and advancement. it is there very plainly for all to see as is your vain attempts at lying and gaining a foot hold.
there is some question of whether the women who say they love actually know what that means or looks like. you say you love and respect women but insult and debase them – and then lie about it.
anyway, in a case where there is reason to be skeptical, it makes sense for man to be practical and go young. it is just a better investment: he's likely to get more enjoyment of out the relationship.
i said SOME older women are like fine wine – and some are like brandy. not all of them are though. and those that claim to be fine wine typically aren't. quality doesn't advertise usually. those are the ones i was mocking. either way, i don't care if older women decided to blacklist me. i'd still do quite alright.
comments? sure whatever. prove that.
yeah. well what you know could fit in a thimble. read about the personalities of high-intelligence people then try again. most of us are pretty difficult. that comes from having to fit in to a world that caters to those of average intelligence.
just imagining living in a world where most people are about as smart as a typical sixth grader. it'd be pretty annoying and frustrating.
parental issues can arise from this too. as by your teens you surpass your parents intellectually and don't respect their authority over you.
you can read up; or keep spinning dr. phil. what ever floats your boat. oh and if i was a computer geek, that'd mean i have above average intelligence, right? lol. thanks.
no. perception isn't reality – that's only true for deluded people. perception is super-imposed on an external reality. further, not all information reaches the mind via the senses.
also, truth can be deduced and tested 'mathematically'.
so there are some objective indications the intellect (note i didn't say intelligence); one's the ability to construct arguments and reason abstractly.
another is the ability to subject perceptions to 'tests'.
given that you haven't exhibited an ability to do this in this exchange; i came to the fair conclusion: that you – like most people – just aren't in my league intellectually. perhaps you've been holding back to deliver some coup de grace…but i doubt it. you've been going all out, and i'm not even power walking.
a sapio-sexual is a person attracted to the mind and intellect over the body. while i like a big azz, i definitely have those streaks.
usually i'm completely turned off by a woman of average intellect. fittingly, i never really bothered to look at your picture.
unsurprisingly, the rest of your post is pretty irrelevant and nonsensical. so i'm just going to end with this: if you are an attractive woman and have not attracted a mate; you need to look at yourself – not just your physical self -three times before you look at another.
only a loser blames others for what does or doesn't happen to them. isn't that what coaches tell their players?
Jan 30th, 2012
Can'tBeSerious
I assume you are a man. Men, sometimes you guys have to listen to women when it comes to issues like this. Women do NOT want a man that is still playing the bachelor life at 50. It's nasty. If any younger women are giving you play, please believe it's about that bank account. No sane woman wants a man that's still running through chicks at 50. Huge red flag!
Feb 5th, 2012
Painter
What the crap are you talking about? I'm trying to discern your point. I really am, 'cause I love a good argument, but what the heck, man? 'as long as dude keeps his money up and dress nice, the juiciest apples will fall into his hands. '
Um, what? If by 'juicy' you mean skanky, and by 'apples' you mean whores. I'm sorry but men will 'do' anything with an opening in it, whereas women usually point and laugh, and leave. And as for msjordan's 'fairytale' story, LOL, better leave it alone, you are making no sense. Your fairytales are all about men being able to choose young "juicy" women one after the other when they get too old. Sorry, not unless you want skanky whores, and you are incredibly rich. And even then, I, for one of a million other women, wouldn't touch that mess. Sounds like you have issues, one of which is delusion. Ta-ta!
Feb 16th, 2012
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